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Re: “The Decade in Art: More Interactive than Ever

Hey! Wow, it's not often that you get an answer back when a comment is left on a site, thank you for the clarification and for your work. It's easy to forget that it was just two people working on what really turned out to have an immense impact. Funny that your use the term re(verb), I often think of it as an echo.

Posted by Jocko on 01/01/2010 at 7:00 PM

Re: “The Decade in Art: More Interactive than Ever

Jocko, I don't think ease and democratization are necessarily the same thing. Often, they're quite the opposite.

Personally, I was interested in two things: I wanted to build a kickass web-based feed reader and republisher for my own personal use (I continue to use it every day even now), and I was interested in exploring the specific behavior patterns around publishing flows, citation, and attribution. Making all that stuff a push-button action for the fortnightly Eyebeam Reblogger was fun.

We talked a lot about making it a hosted thing for everyone, but I just don't think the will to follow through on it was ever really there. It was mostly Frumin and I building it, and I think we viewed it as a combination of thing-for-Eyebeam and thing-to-make-a-point. I'm happy that Tumblr appropriated the terminology, they've done something a lot more complete with the concept than we chose to because they've been willing to support a centralized, hosted service. I like that the "re(verb)" terminology is present in Twitter as well, because it takes the abstract idea of copying as interpretation, and makes it something that millions of normal people do every day. I would hope that exposure to this possibility through whatever service a person chooses for their communication and publishing will help make real the derivation and distribution arguments from folks like (CC) and Lawrence Lessig. It's important for people to have first-hand experience with such things, even if it's not with the specific PHP application called Reblog.

Posted by migurski on 12/31/2009 at 4:48 PM

Re: “The Decade in Art: More Interactive than Ever

Eyebeam can perhaps take credit for the term "Reblog", yet the concept of "reblogging" predates 2004. As far as I can remember "linking" and giving credit to the author or source material started with the birth of the blog and blogger, yet it was done so manually (with code) and probably in greater detail. Also, several developers did have "helper" software available pre-2004 that made it "easier" to reblog items, I'm just not sure Eyebeam pioneered the concept of "reblogging". Also, it must be noted that "reblog" was hardly easy to install, versions were constantly in beta and one needed a server with PHP, MySQL, and Perl CGI scripts, and even then a good deal of tinkering needed to take place under the hood. If Eyebeam was so interested in the ease and democratization of content why did they focus on working with Movable Type (which is NOT free) and why wasn't something developed for Pre-Google owned Blogger, or Blogspot, something easier to install and use that didn't need to be self-hosted?

Posted by Jocko on 12/31/2009 at 10:33 AM

Re: “The Best of NYC ART

Huh? The Statue of Liberty is a symbol and reminder of WHY we declared our liberty -- excessive taxation and no representation. These days we are right back to where we were. Look at the debt our governments owe, borrowing by selling bonds for needless spending, promising to pay them back with future generations' excessive taxes. And talk about no representation: most of these taxpayers aren't even born yet! The "sad-sack" costumes tell us to come in and avoid paying more taxes than required by the government theives.

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Posted by Libertarian on 12/30/2009 at 2:07 AM

Re: “The Decade in Art: More Interactive than Ever

The reblog link has a typo and brings you back to the main page.

Posted by kathrynborn on 12/29/2009 at 10:40 AM

Re: “The Decade in Art: More Interactive than Ever

Whilst reblog is an amazingly prescient tool, I'd have to fundamentally disagree with the concept that "web curation" was art's great gift to culture this decade. Not only did the link-sharing site delicious start in 2003, but the online curated link collection web zen started even earlier (2002?). My observation is that as the internet gained cultural ground, the idea of curators-as-gatekeepers collapsed when all subculture was indexed and googleable.

Posted by Pete on 12/28/2009 at 5:31 PM

Re: “The Decade in Art: More Interactive than Ever

Thanks for the mention! We struggled a lot with how to handle attribution in Reblog, and I think there's an interesting contrast between how we implemented it and how it's currently manifested in Tumblr or Twitter's retweet feature. In RB, the attribution always goes back one step in the chain to show where you saw something. In the more unified services it's possible to go back to the beginning, so the chain of attribution is invisible and the original creator is favored.

Posted by migurski on 12/28/2009 at 4:27 PM

Re: “Tracey Emin's Painfully Good Humor

My dog had sex with Tracey Emin and now he wants a gallery show, too.

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Posted by v1m on 12/25/2009 at 5:16 AM

Re: “Tracey Emin's Painfully Good Humor

painful,yes Why anyone would think these are "great" drawings only means two things you have never seen a great draftsman or content over rides all

Posted by Artistartists on 12/24/2009 at 9:18 PM

Re: “In Bushwick, Graffiti Meets Gallery Art

QUALITY I really like this blog, now im not 1 for adding links in my replies but I feel this is a great exception, I read a story like this about graffiti artist Darren Cullen on http://www.hire-a-graffiti-artist.co.uk/ he also works with another bunch of graffiti artists called the Graffiti Kings.

Posted by twerrydeeuk on 11/22/2009 at 9:44 AM

Re: “Tracey Emin's Painfully Good Humor

From the description above it appears that Emin continues to produce trite,bad art which impresses "art critics". She regards Picasso as nothing more than a misogynist? Oh,please....it really is too embarrasing to think that a lightweight chancer like Emin is lauded by the New York art scene.

Posted by Anthony on 11/17/2009 at 10:35 AM

Re: “Femininity Deregulated

What makes presenting feminist causes different from others is that many times, people have a lot of exposure to the misinformation surrounding feminism, but rarely know any of the truths. There are also many conflicting feminist perspectives, so one must be more deliberate in explaining which position they advocate.

The Zentz piece had me slightly confused - the 'skip-it' was a toy designed for both boys and girls, so I'm forced to wonder if the toy had any significance relevant to the exhibit or her (supposedly) repressed youth.

It seems as if Polashenki's piece reinforced the unapolagetic 'equality and equality now' mantra of women's liberation second-wave feminism. The near-comatose positioning of the figure on the couch seems to say "Women are in such dire need of an immediate shift. Where we are now is quite literally killing us."

Miller's piece works on a different level. Miller takes the sexuality that has been imposed on her, and turns it back against the viewer. In a very third-wave feminist fashion, Miller wields her sexuality as if it were some sort of tool. By taking ownership of the societal female sexual standards and perversions that existed long before her, Miller manages to assert her control over them.


It's no accident that links can be seen between the two strongest pieces in the exhibit and two popular feminist movements. Great art comes from compelling ideas. The suffragettes didn't simply want the vote, they absolutely needed to have it. And as Einstein said, "True art is characterized by an irresistible urge in the artist."

Posted by narmstea on 10/17/2009 at 11:23 AM

Re: “America’s Mid-Century Adolescence

Dennis Hopper's photographs are notoriously hard to find (a situation that will presumably be remedied with the publication of this new book), but The Daily Beast has just about the most comprehensive slideshow of Hopper photographs available online:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-sto…

The slideshow accompanying the show on the Tony Shafrazi Gallery website ain't bad either:
http://www.tonyshafrazigallery.com/index.p…

Posted by Benjamin Sutton on 10/01/2009 at 1:27 PM

Re: “The New Dutch Landscape of Concrete

It's a shame that in so many cases art can be so separate from vision. The (over)development of natural beauty like this deserves to be examined in more ways than simply from an objective standpoint. We could very well be witnessing the end of purely organic aesthetics.

Posted by narmstea on 09/18/2009 at 6:29 PM

Re: “The Next Ones: Delusional Downtown Divas (performance artists)

The art world needs at least a few people who can laugh at themselves. I look forward to finding out what this award show is all about.

Posted by deirdre on 09/02/2009 at 4:59 PM

Re: “The Next Ones: Wendy White (visual artist)

Beautiful work! Glad Wendy White is getting some well deserved attention.

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Posted by CL on 09/02/2009 at 11:20 AM

Re: “Museums Go To War on the High Seas of Queens

I Like how they gave alcohol to the people wearing the togas.

Posted by logostrader on 08/21/2009 at 10:19 AM

Re: “Museums Go To War on the High Seas of Queens

great article. that must've been really fun and exciting.

-bg

Posted by pushermanpoet on 08/21/2009 at 9:36 AM

Re: “The Best of NYC ART

that's the bank of america building... in seattle

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Posted by endigg on 08/08/2009 at 4:18 PM

Re: “Dash Snow is Dead

Seriously? Never heard of him. If that was a sweet candid pic of him and his bf staying in on a Friday night with some brews, maybe I'd feel a bit sadder, but, those pics ARE the art?
I guess I know nothing.


BTW Paddy used to actually have an artical in print in L. It wasn't much, only a quarter page if we were lucky. I didn't even agree with her opinion most of the time but I read it religiously just the same because at least she is out there doing it and there is slim to none on the underground art front these days. So this is the first time I've ever logged in to L online, because I keep waiting for her to come back to the mag and I doesn't look like it'll ever happen. Then this guy is front page?

Like I said... I guess I know nothing.

I do know this though. Drugs are baaad, mmmmmmm-kay?

Fight the good fight Paddy.

Posted by Artstar on 07/15/2009 at 3:13 PM

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