Good point, Stella. Thanks for taking the time to comment.
Well, at least you don't call yourself a journalist. Right? I mean, no one else would...
Oh brother. You're occupying because you're spoiled. Breastfed on the taxpayer's dime for the first twelve years of your education, you just don't want to pay. For anything. No one believes you're going to give up your materialism; you just want it for free. Admit it. I'll admit this: it's for thugs like you that I keep my shotgun clean and ready. Romantic rebels, eh? Keep telling yourself that, you're idiots and stooges and don't even know it.
Fuck you. Cops make more than I do and have better benefits. I'm raising a family in Brooklyn. I value things like being "artsy and intelligent."
Again, fuck you.
I have a problem with these transplants looking down on all the working class people. "we are so artsy and intelligent" meanwhile the cop who barely gets by on his salary raising a family has to hear insults from this garbage. And to top it off has to protect them from all scary "minorities" these stupid clueless transplant f**ks are so afraid of.
Preferring Bushwick to Park Slope might be insane (but hey, I don't like parks and find Park Slope incredibly boring), and this whole undertaking is most certainly biased by the opinions of those of us who put it together (including someone born and raised in Bay Ridge!), but I'm not sure why it's particularly arrogant. We've been pretty clear about what we like and want out of life, as have most of the commenters in this thread. They seem to be different things. I invite everyone to come up with their own rankings and, where possible, I'll post them right here.
I certainly don't blame people for vehemently disagreeing with this ranking, though I can gently mock them for their dully homophobic hatred of the mythical "noodle-armed Midwestern girlie man who has a trust fund and hates brown people and on and on and on..." The vitriol indiscriminately hosed upon the archetypal hipster straw man always amazes me.
Right, it's why it makes any sense. And to be honest I don't blame you because it's what your readers, for the most part, want to read. So that should be the end of the story. But...
Can you blame all the people who are put off by this? It's written from within an arrogant and very biased bubble where Bushwick is #7 and Park Slope and Carroll Gardens fall right behind it. Really? That's absolutely twisted and insane.
Besides, South Slope is pretty Hipster and cheap (relatively) these days. Maybe it'll make next year's Hipter power ranking?
"So this article is pretty much for people who read this magazine."
This is a bogus article. It's written in tunnel vision from a secluded elitist point of view. Which of course is from a transplant hipster. But this is L magazine. This is written by hipsters for hipsters, so it should be expected. How many L magazine readers are there in Sheepshead bay? exactly.
So this article is pretty much for people who read this magazine. Not to say I agree. I think the ratings are absurd and even somewhat despicable. Bushwick is an ugly hell hole. There is no reason it should have made any list over prospect heights or boerum hill. But it's skinny jeans and art school/barista town and that's who reads this. what use would it do to have the 10 greatest neighborhoods: bensonhurst, bay ridge, sunset park, crown heights, midwood...
Me, I'm raised in park slope (since 1990), originally from manhattan. Some of my friends went the williamsburg route, whle some went the deep brooklyn ways. Others just never left. I don't hate on hipsters or think I'm better. I love good coffee and bike lanes. Just don't be a tool.
I'm tired of testosterone starved girlmen transplants from the Midwest giving their opinions about Brooklyn - you people grew up in a cultural wasteland bubble and don't know what the hell your talking about. You know nothing about the real world because your white bread grandparents fled to the shitburbs in the 60's, now after two years of living living in Brooklyn you pretend like you discovered the fuckin place. Only people from the ghetto and wannabes use the word "hood", but if you want I dare you to move to Brownsville. Go back where you came from and a blow me.
Yea i kinda agree that not even listing why they were chosen is an issue and that they shouldn't even be ranked, but i don't agree with the white statement Ditmas Park is really diverse.
Isn't that what we did?
The L magazine has no business commenting on real Brooklyn neighborhoods such as Brownsville, East NY,Sheepshead,etc...
Stick to reporting on your manufactured neighborhoods
Ha. Now you guys are just being nonsensical fuckheads.
You left the bedbug farms you keep under your wool ski cap and the stale grease, food particles and lice in your gross neckbeard off your list. Those are things you like a lot too, like yah, totes obvsies.
Gee, yet if you visit the Midwest, all you hear is how Muslims should assimilate to the culture. How Mexicans should learn to speak English in areas that used to be Mexico. How scary foreigners are. Yet the people from the Midwest show up in areas in which they are the foreigners and expect those who are already there to assimilate to their Midwest idea of what the area should be. Is that what hipsters call living ironically?
The problem with self-proclaimed native Brooklynites is that they only interact with themselves and try to tell everyone who moves to Brooklyn how to live.
-bike lanes Not a problem for me but the holier than thou attitude of transplants is rather annoying.
-drinking PBR--Pretty shitty beer. You drink it to be ironic because working class people used to drink it which is obnoxious. Most hipsters grew up wealthy and drink this shitty beer to gain some fake authenticity
-thick-framed glasses--These just look stupid, especially for those with 20/20 vision
-wool hats--NYC is very hot in the summer and there is no way this can be comfortable. People choosing fashion over comfort in 100 degree heat are generally poseur assclowns. Also probably used to hide unwashed nasty hair
-scarves --see above
-riding a fixie--Again style over comfort. NYC is very hilly which requires more than one gear.
-loud clubs-Don't disturb families with your loud parties on a Sunday night because you don't have a job
-restaurants-If they serve tasty food I am fine with transplants opening restaurants. However most of these hipster places serve food that is way over priced and under portioned
-trendy coffee-I like a good cup of Joe, just not for $5. The pretentiousness of some of these places is also off the charts
-lumberjack shirts--You're not a lumberjack and I bet you couldn't even lift an axe
-sustainable- if true a good thing but in reality a buzzword to be pretentious about
-organic-see above, don't preach to me about it
-fair trade--you care so much about Guatemalans yet look down on them here in the city. Hypocrites.
-wanting to be an artist--nothing wrong with this except most of you aren't talented and in the end contribute nothing to society
-lattes- No problem here
-artisanal [things?] Again a buzzword. Most of these artisinal products produced by these transplants are not very good. True artisinal products generally result from experience and apprenticeship. Artisinal doesn't mean "Josh just learned how to make pickles last week and now has opened a pickle company with daddy's money". Go to Smorgasbord in Williamsburg, tons of shitty products.
-kickball--Look if you want to play kickball that's fine with me. I just choose to play in a baseball and basketball league because I have athletic ability
-writing on a laptop--Again not a problem, just a common symptom
-the flugelhorn--I will plead ignorance here
-the names Hayden, Josh, Zoe and Meghan--typical white suburban douchey names
-Chuck Taylors-Besides being ugly they are uncomfortable
-vintage clothes --we live in a city with a bed bug problem. Need I say more?
-American Apparel--un flattering clothing for skinny hipster men and chubby hipsterwomen owned by a peadophile.
-ironic t-shirts--these shirts aren't ironic and they aren't clever. Wearing blue collar clothes doesn't change who you are
-Macbooks--Actually a pretty good product
-men with bags--Don't get shocked when your $400 man purse gets robbed by a kid from Bed Stuy
-girls in shapeless dresses with uneven skirt hems---Not flattering.
-unicycles---Really? I mean Really? I have no rational thing to say here only that anytime I see some asshole on a unicycle I want to punch them. Well i guess they are a public safety hazard because they are a GIANT WHEEL WITH A SEAT
-banjos--This isn't Deliverance asshole
-xylophones bands---Shitty not ironic
-Space Invader's T-shirts--You're 40 years old. You're an adult, give up childhood. i never saw my father wearing a Howdy Doody t shirt
-Apple products--Not a problem with the product but the sheep like devotion is a little sick
-film theory---Useless waste of Daddy's money
-women's studies-Possibly useful
-contemporary tattoo history---Your nasty ass tattoos are permanent. You ever see 60 year olds with faded stretched out tattoos? Enjoy your future
-roof top farming--Brooklyn is pretty toxic. I wouldn't want to eat things growing out of the ground no less an asbestos laden roof. Enjoy.
So you see most of us "natives" have no problem with people moving here and being productive parts of the community. People who interact with the people who are already here. The problem with the hipsters is that they only interact with themselves and try to tell the people who are already here how to live. They also view the different "ethnics" like zoo animals in the stories of their lives. There is no respect. Your list is fairly indicative of this trend.
Here are the things being used as insults so far in this thread:
-riding a fixie
-wanting to be an artist
-writing on a laptop
-the names Hayden, Josh, Zoe and Meghan
-men with bags
-girls in shapeless dresses with uneven skirt hems
-Space Invader's T-shirts
-contemporary tattoo history
-roof top farming
How are you supposed to argue with someone who thinks they're insulting you by correctly identifying the things you like very much? Most of what you say is true (except for all the blustering nativist crap: some of us (L Mag editorial) are from Brooklyn, some are from Queens, and some are—gasp—from foreign countries. And yes, one of us is even from Ohio.)
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