its so much don't move there, Obviously the Internet is permanently down in NYC as NO ONE ANSWERS E-MAILS... especially Galleries
FYI, Nars didnt/doesnt have a net lease. ICA pays the RE taxes, water/sewer, delivered to NARS a clean, painted loft, with functioning electric service, light fixtures and bathrooms. ICA provides, heat, elevator service, 24 hour security and NARS had a good deal in the process. Maybe they shouldnt have expanded the way they did... Maybe their model is wrong. Dont blame the LL every time. Unfortunately, things never get cheaper.
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Your all in the wrong place. You need to move to London. Americans all over the goddam place these days.
@ Austin, maybe instead of dreaming you could actually read the article and do you have any friends?
I lolz at all the people bitching. This city generates more wealth for its inhabitants and the people making it don't bitch about it on the L magazine web. People move here to follow their dreams, some bust, but hardly all. The stories of grandeur travel far and wide and only those whose dreams are lost bitch about it here.
Never stop dreaming.
@Sam. Yeah, I shouldn't have said curriculum, it's, MICA that is, still the same old Master's crap for undergraduate foundation. The painting department for example is a geriatrics ward, Yates is finally gone because of dementia, Barry Nemmit's the chair has been there for for four decades, Middleman longer, Weiss, George Ciscle, Economos, all these people date from the 70's. What I was getting at was younger faculty in terms of marketing the school and younger administrators feel the future is in programs related to gaming, CGI, anime since painting majors are dwindling and kids growing up with 1st person shooters want to get into that. They feel with the souring of the Fine Art world this will be a trend for artists wanting to have a job and not wanting to move to NYC to wait tables to pay off debt. With no movement happening in NY, why come here except for the free food at all the openings, and even that is changing with the nomadic site type openings. You said you were there a few years ago, how many is that and were you tuned into what was going on in terms of recruitment?
Anytime Paddy wants to investigate the labor exploitation known as an "internship" by galleries and particularly small film boutiques is fine by me. I lived in S. williamsburg last summer rooming with two people who had internships with the innuendo that the place may hire them. BS, when the word hiring came up they would just say they're not hiring and that they were giving you valuable on the job experience. One of these people had taken out a loan on top of other student debt, just to live Manhattan/Brooklyn.
the real reason not to live in new york is that everyone's a fucking faker just trying to shit their way up the ladder. no one cares for real. preacher tellin the truth and it hurts.
Hilary> Regarding MICA, you're right on most counts except one: the MICA I graduated from a few years ago was not aiming the curriculum toward "anime and manga," and I was an illustration student. A few study abroad in Japan every year, or cite Miyazaki as an inspiration (the same way half of the music industry cites Queen as an inspiration?), but professors and peers actively, openly, and ruthlessly discouraged anyone whose work was too derivative. Character design and concept art was instead geared toward production art/visual development, be it for games or Western animation.
We are the New Jews of Brooklyn, and there's nothing anyone can do about it. A people of many lands and many languages, and one faith. Artists. And as the Jews and Italians and Irish swarmed over the City of Brooklyn more than a century ago and destroyed its old Dutch character, so shall we engulf today the whole of the borough and supplant its pizzerias and pubs and kosher delis with artisanal cafes and art galleries. And we are proud of it. What. "You got a problem with that?"
Move to New York if you're an upper-middle class white artist looking to slum it and play poor and look good while doing it!
Well yes you need connections and it helps to have a trust fund. Really seems romantic, until you wake up at 40 and realize you are alone, broke, and still looking fo the break.
paddy is a terrible writer lacking flight, and it's because of people like her that the art world is going bankrupt of intellect and challenge but not money. She is all for those abstract smears on sheets going. Give it some content and she'll run away. If it takes more than 5 minutes to process she can't handle.
Creative solutions you can find everywhere. correct, it's not perfect here and it hasn't been in the past 15 years I've been here and it never will be. However, you can do it! Don't let misery find your company. Paddy will always bitch about something. Move on L magazine!
No, it's not a 15 year old article. You use to be able to find deals on raw space in Manhattan in a commercially zoned building for 150-200$ a month. Heat was shut off on the weekends, but hey. You could share a loft in Soho with 5 or 6 people for 200 or so a month, plus utilities. I found a rent controlled deal in EV for 400$ a month. What this article is saying is now such deals no longer exist but just a room sharing a kitchen in say a Chinatown is 600 a month, and that's rare. But wages at menial food service jobs have not risen, creating the squeeze. So people are living in New Jersey like Hoboken or moving to places off the NJ RR like the Oranges or Maplewood. Harlem is getting arty. But, like the article says with even LES getting stale or mundane, and Williamsburg/Bushwick not much different, and the fact like for a painter you can get keep up virtually via gallery web sites, the NEED to be in nyc isn't quite there for artists the way it was 20 years ago. So, it's not only don't come to nyc if you are a painter, it's more like you don't need to live there, just visit for a prolong stay periodically. And the art world becoming no different than a retail Tiffany's just adds to the sour taste.
You don't move here for the deals, you move here for the people. Move to New York. We're all still here.
Bogota is ok for a couple of days, but the pollution is horrible, the city smells like gasoline. Go to Cartagena.
Again? This is at least a 15 year old article. I have read dozens like it. You can do better L.
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