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      <![CDATA[Did I steal your professional attentions? My bad.<br>
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But seriously: you'll notice I've only *responded* to posts and comments.
        
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      <![CDATA[Dear Mr. Paul or Whoever:<br>
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You seem bound and determined not to let Jonny have the last comment here. Every time he tries to wind down the discussion, leaving less and less room for further discussion, you squeeze your way in so that the last word is not somebody disagreeing with you.
        
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      <![CDATA[We've got a jokester on our hands! Well...as long as the jokes aren't about crust-punks.
        
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    <author><![CDATA[Jonny Diamond]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[Actually, it's pretty much just you.
        
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      <![CDATA[Jeez! Toys are hateful, internet comments are exhausting...is there anything, no matter how minor, that doesn't take it out of you?
        
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      <![CDATA[This forced internet civility is exhausting. I'm sure if we worked hard enough we could get down to irreconcilable first principles.
        
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      <![CDATA[My issue with your post, ultimately, is one of perspective—of mountains and molehills. I'm sorry to hear that the Free Williamsburg article touched a nerve, but jokes come at the expense of other people sometimes, and the connection you posit between the flip dehumanization of the FW article and the violence on Avenue D strikes me as facile (not to mention unprovable).<br>
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Of course we can care about more than one cause—everyone knows that.
        
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      <![CDATA[@Paul<br>
Defending any given community does not preclude defending, or advocating on behalf of, any other community; it's not a zero-sum situation (this is a weirdly common attack on "flag-wavers," e.g. How can you care about homeless dogs when children are starving in Africa? Well, it's possible to care and act on multiple fronts.)<br>
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You should also read the following article for a sense of what I'm getting at, vis a vis how easy it is to dehumanize marginalized groups: <a href="http://www.thelmagazine.com/newyork/are-cops-ignoring-attacks-on-street-kids/Content?oid=1192432" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.thelmagazine.com/newyork/are-co&hellip;</a><br>
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I do understand that the crusties on Bedford can be irritating, and may seem like suburban kids engaging in  gutter tourism (an impression due largely to that Daily News article) but for the most part, crusties are homeless kids who've ended up on the streets for a variety of reasons.
        
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      <![CDATA[@Jonny<br>
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You might consider defending some underserved communities that really need the support. Not to say that being a crust punk isn't full of misery—it must be, judging from the odors some of them give off—but there are so many groups of people in Brooklyn and New York at large that could use a helping hand.
        
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      <![CDATA[@Paul<br>
I'm always going to be self-righteous and whiny when one class of people starts talking about another class of people as if they were insects. The toy was just an added bonus.<br>
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      <![CDATA[Oh my god, could you sound any more whiny and self-righteous than you already do? 'I publish an alternative magazine, I'm the voice of the underground!'
        
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      <![CDATA[From the FW piece: "As you've undoubtedly noticed, they've invaded the 'burg and now we can expect a surge in lyme disease from the ticks festering in their nasty-ass beards."<br>
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Because yes, Williamsburg was free of "nasty-ass beards" before the crusty punks arrived.
        
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