"I don't know what a New Wave style is. That's some shit." 

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So you went back to San Francisco, where you had been living before you moved to Europe, as the French delegate!
Yeah. I went there the same year as Agnes Varda. And the French, they knew what they were doing, also.

Why?
Because they knew it was going to be embarrassing that the only black filmmaker, was from France.

< p>It's interesting. My experience is that the US film world is much more geared towards money or status, while the French are more supportive of the Idea. And they seem to have a little more fun, too...
Well, the Americans are a little more winning, or what they perceive as winning, than the French. But also, the French are happy just to get their film made. But, I think, if you're going to tell a story, you may as well tell it in the language that the people are speaking. But in France, with the stories, they're not as concerned...

You don't mean the literal language but reaching the people?
Yes exactly.

Yes, I couldn't imagine you being limited to always make movies that were "artistically worthwhile but not commercially viable." But when you were in France, did you meet any French New Wave filmmakers?
I didn't know any of them.

Did you see a lot of movies, though?
No. Let me ask you something. If you had to choose between a movie or a croissant, what would you choose? Ok!

But you were kind of working in a New Wave style...
I don't know what a New Wave style is. That's some shit.

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