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Nina: I don't remember with 'Pofilia,' I remember with 'Aviary,' playing it for you [Moody] and being like, 'I kinda think there's something to this song, I wrote it a long time ago but something's not quite right. I don't think I like the guitar part, quite' and then it was sort of kicked around and you [Moody] said 'play less,' I remember that, then we brought it here, David added piano, it yeah... it was sort of, it morphed once it got here. So, I don't know with 'Pofilia' where that... I mean maybe that was sort of more obviously Wingdaley; it's a waltz, there's, you know, opportunity for harmonies...

Rick: There's a sort of rather intense, in my view anyway, intense editorial board of the Wingdales...

Nina: That's true...

Rick: ...and I frequently don't measure up to the editorial board. And the interesting thing is it's not centered in a person, it's actually sort of a band thing, and I think all of us at one time or another have fallen under the lash of...

[laughter]

David: Actually, you've heard of good cop/bad cop... Nina: But in fairness, you (Moody) also bring a tremendous number of things to the table, which... it's sort of like, statistically speaking there are a whole lot of songs, so therefore a whole lot more maybe don't get played than the few that I bring...

David: You have an excellent batting average.

Nina: Yes.

David: No one bats a thousand.

Rick: I make songs like William Burroughs made paintings. Fire the gun and the paint and see what happens, you know.

The L: Do you guys feel like you have a genial, healthy dialogue, because that's a hard thing to accomplish, you know, to say, 'you know this is an excellent song but...'

David: 'But we'll never play it again.' You know, what is healthy?

[laughter]

Rick: No, Hannah and I, you know, are probably the more prolific—at the moment—songwriting team in the band, and she has an incredible bullshit detector capability with my lyrics that's very useful to me.

The L: What do you imagine going forward? Do you imagine a future record that deals with modern ideas? I know you know and have enjoyed 'White Light, White Heat' and 'Metal Machine Music'; is there a Wingdales record that is a noise record? Is that something you could imagine?

Rick: I don't think so, probably...

Nina: But I feel like singing is going to be at the heart of whatever happens next, I mean, we already - you know, writing these set lists for the next few shows? Half of the set list is new stuff since the record. We've got tons of new stuff.

Hannah: Yeah, we've got like four or five new songs, already.

Nina: So, I mean, even thinking about what the new songs are... hmm... I would say more similar to the...

Hannah: They're very harmony based and they're utilizing sort of the fact that we all can and really enjoy singing harmony to sort of explore the more of the... death chant...

[laughter]

The L: I hear a little bit of Fairport Convention in your music and I hear a little bit of the Magarigolds. I don't know if you acknowledge those as influences but they seem true to me. Are there others working that you relate your sort of idiom to or your identity to?

Nina: Working now?

[pause]

[laughter]

David: ...timing the pause... the 45 second pause...

Rick: We all like Leonard Cohen a lot, I mean... but there are only a few...

Hannah: Didn't he just come out with a record now that his ex-girlfriend the Tibetan Buddhist emptied his bank account?

David: I think his manager emptied his bank account...

Rick: ...But there are no harmonies in Leonard Cohen... I mean, I like Fairport a lot, but I don't think there's even that much harmony on the Fairport albums.

Hannah: The Roches?