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What do you make of the phenomenon status attributed to Wild Flag and "all-girl bands”? The Atlantic called Wild Flag the first all-female supergroup. What was your reaction to that?
Oh god, I don't know. I don't have much to say on it. Like, I'm really excited to playing with this band, to be a member of this band, and we do happen to be all women, it's true. But they also are my favorite musicians. So, I don't think I was excited to join this band on the outset because they were all women. It was more because they were like my favorite musicians.
I am a feminist, and you know, women should be treated fairly and all that stuff, but I guess I'm just not—I guess I just don't want to focus on it because it doesn't make me excited. I like playing music. I like playing music with these people. They're women, I'm a woman. And I don't know. That's about as far as it goes at this point, for me.
I think, ultimately, that being in this band and saying "they're my favorite musicians"is probably the best thing you could kind of unconsciously do for feminism. But inequalities do still exist. I mean, what hurdles do you think still exist for female musicians today?
Really the hurdles that are keeping anyone back are just learning how to play an instrument, and leading other people to play instruments. So, it might be, just something that your parents don't encourage you as much to do.. There are so many girl rock camps now that are really great. And I would guess, I would hope, that that's going to make everything more equal, when these girls grow up.
There are just cultural hurdles. The way people treat their children, the way they're treated in school, and you know, what you see your friends doing as a kid. But yeah, that's where you learn and you learn what you're gonna do with your life. But these are huge questions. I haven't had enough coffee—I'm sorry.
No, it's okay!
Someone should write a book about it, I don't know.
What's one recent news item that's made you angry and one recent news item that's restored your faith in humanity?
I can say the whole Rick Perry thing. That was awful and made me really angry. Actually, I was listening to this crazy, crazy preacher, or, I talked with an apostle I guess, from the new Apostolic Revelation church? Church of revelations or something? And they basically back Perry in the belief that the church should take over the government and they should take over education. They should take over art in this country and that basically everyone in the country should be converted to their religion, so that was fucked up. That was one news item that made me really angry, I guess. Um, I don't know the one that restored my faith in humanity.
What about—what's a piece of music that you've been listening to recently that's just been really good?
Oh, I love the band that we're playing with, Yellowfever.
I've seen them play a couple of times here in Brooklyn and—she is insane. Her voice is crazy.
I know. They're my favorite. Their songs are so good. The drummer is just crazy, like playing all these different drumbeats and playing basslines at the same time, it's insane. It blows my mind.
What does the future of Wild Flag sound and look like?
I feel like with every song we write we're getting to figure out what works better and better, and what doesn't work. in the future—what does it look and sound like? I think we're going to keep rocking out, to be honest. And, I could say more in the same vein, probably. I don't think we're going to have any gigantic style change with this band. It's not like we're going to suddenly make a funk record or something. That is definitely not happening. Our second record is going to sound pretty similar.